DOMINIC KING: Kirkby inquiry struggling on the same old hymn sheets
TWO groups to provide a soundtrack to the most contentious issue in the history of Everton Football Club - The Verve and The Animals.
After months of waiting, the public inquiry which will ultimately decide whether Everton can leave Goodison Park for a new home in Kirkby began when Inspector Wendy Burden opened proceedings in the town's civic suite at 10am on Wednesday.
In one corner, we have Everton's acting chief executive Robert Elstone leading the fight for the club and the obvious tune to back his arguments being the one penned by The Animals in 1965 - "We've gotta get out of this place, if it's the last thing we ever do."
Then there are myriad factions - among them Liverpool City Council and KEIOC - in opposition, as well as traditionalists who may have noted the lyrics from The Verve's latest offering: "I'd rather be here than be anywhere, is anywhere better than here?"
Unfortunately, the answer to that is rapidly appearing to be 'yes' and the reasons articulately outlined by Elstone earlier this week are enough to send shivers down the spines of all Evertonians, regardless of their stance on Kirkby.
This article will, no doubt, be dismissed by many as yet more club propaganda, a vehicle that gives Elstone a chance to promote the Destination Kirkby project as some sort of nirvana for all Blues and ignores the concerns of others.
Well, it's not. Its point is to illustrate a number of facts that show, above all, Everton cannot allow themselves to fall behind their Premier League rivals by standing still due to their inability to generate enough money.
"We have been looking hard for at least 10 years," Elstone pointed out. "We have looked at what we can do at Goodison, we've spoken with Liverpool City Council and have looked to see if we can make Goodison a modern, 21st century stadium with 50,000 seats.
"That hasn't proven to be the case. We revisited the situation and found it would be very expensive to do it and with minimal returns. We asked the council a few years ago prior to signing the exclusivity agreement with Tesco if there were sites which we could revue.
"We had done our homework but the answer was 'no' before we signed up to Tesco and Knowsley.
"We have not been able to see a site that comes with the financial support that the Kirkby Project does.
"There have been pieces of land that have been floated but none of them have had any glimmer of hope that they would be commercially viable for us. At the moment, we are heavily exposed to the performance of our manager."
While that shows David Moyes in the best of lights, he and his players clearly need support and given the way money makes the modern footballing world go round, a packed ground is imperative to that happening.
Just look at the figures between Everton and Arsenal.
The Blues, on the very best of days, generate £800,000 from Goodison Park, whereas the Gunners' get a return of £3m per match at The Emirates Stadium.
Elstone's presentation at the EGM in September showed ways in which Goodison could be redeveloped but it proved the cost is astronomical, the inconvenience maximum and the returns they would get in the long-term minimal.
The arguments put forward by KEIOC, however, are just as persuasive and their chairman Dave Kelly is eager to emphasise that they are not standing in the way of the club's progress - all they want is their beloved Blues to stay within the city boundaries.
If there was a suitable plot of land, so would Bill Kenwright. If his pockets were deep enough, this probably wouldn't be an issue but the fact of the matter is Everton need to move ground to maximise their earning potential.
Everton can't keep going with cap in hand every summer to the bank manager, bumping up their borrowings to bring in new faces as it only takes one wrong season to spell catastrophe - just look what happened to Leeds United.
Equally, they cannot run the risk of losing at the public inquiry as that will inevitably lead to comparisons with the King's Dock saga and leave those who have been fierce in their criticism screaming 'why there was no back-up plan?'
It promises, then, to be an intriguing couple of months - a period of time that will decide if Everton can keep moving forward or force them to take a step back.
Neville lets his guard slip as kids turn up heat
MARTIN BASHIR and Jeremy Paxman may be two of the world's great interviewers but they have nothing on primary school children - just ask Phil Neville.
The Everton skipper paid a visit to the NSPCC Centre on Great Homer Street earlier this week to promote an anti-bullying campaign and, after being shown round the outstanding facility, he took part in a question and answer session.
As you would expect, Neville replied to every query in a diplomatic and sensitive manner, offering advice to those children who wanted to know if he had ever been bullied and enlightening those who were desperate to know about all things Everton.
Of course, it was inevitable the innocence of youth ensured he was asked how much he earned and which of his team-mates had the best car but, ever the professional, Neville remained unflustered.
Then, though, he dropped his guard. "B*****y hell, kids, that was worse than a normal interview!" he said without thinking after the last question.
Cue the instant sounds of startled gasps from his audience and a red-faced Neville frantically back-pedalling to apologise.
Lawro misses the funny bone - once again
MARK LAWRENSON has been trying for years to cultivate a reputation as a funny man but the pundit's attempts at humour fell flat on their face once again this week.
At the North West Football Awards earlier this week, David Moyes was asked to present a gong to Sir Tom Finney and took part in some banter with Lawrenson on stage before the Preston great was called up.
Typically, though, Lawrenson went a step too far and when he told Moyes in front of a 300-strong audience that he was a "crap" player, the 'joke' was met with the sound of tumbleweeds, rather than laughter.
And, if anything, Moyes was able to have the last laugh. Not only was he later named Manager of the Year, Sir Tom's first words on stage were "actually, I thought David was one of Preston's better players". Touché.
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Yes Dominic, as you rightly acknowledge, this is another piece of thinly veiled club propaganda. Either that or you really do seem ignorant to the reality of Premier League finance just now. I like how you quote our matchday revenue versus Arsenal as if to imply that Kirkby will help us reach the level of Emirates when, in reality, we both know that is not true. It will likely not even be half. Depending on which figures you choose to believe and how far you wish to buy into the clubs absolutely ridiculous forecasts then Everton can expect to achieve increased revenues of maybe £6-10m per season from a stadium in Kirkby. When you deduct the financing costs of the deal it will have no impact on our fortunes whatsoever, other than to maybe keep the wolves from the door a little longer. I think it's time you faced the fact that what is really holding this club back is it's inept management, not Goodison Park. If you can somehow convince me how those numbers are going to help Everton 'compete' though then i'm all ears. Of course you won't because you can't, because i'm not an idiot.
Dominic King. You must yearn to write a well balanced story? Everything that you put to print is EXACTLY what the board at Everton FC would want us to hear. Do you think no-one can see it?
I'm counting the days until this Kirkby nightmare ends. So are the vast majority of other Evertonians.
Dominic - Do you really believe what you are writing? So Arsenal make £3m a game from their ground per game and Goodison only makes £800k per game. The figures you fail to give are:
(a) How much will Kirkby generate per game?
(b) How much will Everton have to borrow to pay for the stadium?
(c) How much will the repayments on that borrowing be?
(d) When you take the repayments on borrowing from the extra revenue generated by the stadium what are you left with?
By my calculations we'll need an extra 13,000 fans per game over what we get at Goodison to repay borrowing and increased costs of the Kirkby stadium (CPZ and extra employees - all in the planning application if you could be bothered to read it)
If your mate Bill can't sell the club whilst at Goodison it is because he is asking too much for it.
The real scandal is use of Knowsley taxpayers money to build Everton a stadium but not a peep out of the newspapers on that one.
Unbelievable Mr.King, I have never ever heard an "independent" journalist spout such blatent corporate propoganda before. Who do you think you are trying to kid?
I see Mr King and the club's line of "but Arsenal make this much and Everton only make this much - Kirkby will solve that" has been sussed.....
The board's advisors have told Everton that Kirkby will make around £6m extra per year - that's around £300,000 per match if we only play league games every season at Kirkby.
So, Arsenal will continue to make £3m per match, whilst Everton in Kirkby could make as much as £1.1m per match.
What a pitiful return for the amount of hard feeling and mistrust this move has woven right down the middle of the Everton fanbase.
Still, at least Dom can go off and enjoy watching his side beat Fulham today....
Ahahahahaha
Ahahahahaha.
How does it feel going in to work every day and copying off a piece of paper handed to you from Elstone or Ross? Seriously, do you really feel good about it? Was your dream to go the nationals one day Dom? Become a national sports writer? Problem is, when you get there, you might have to do some independent thinking.
You know less than the average football fan. You have done NO research into the facts and the figures of this potential nightmare. You have NO research on the potential damage this scheme could do to various boroughs, you have done no research on the finance...mind you, who can when Everton and Tesco REFUSE to reveal how they are financing the deal? Did you even know about that?
You must be dreading the day when Bill and co finally pack their trunks and say goodbye to the Circus...you know then what awaits you...writing the horoscopes Dom?
Kryptic King forecasts Liverpool for the title...
Pathetic.
Dominic
Do the decent thing; RESIGN. Your articles indicate a journalistic integrity-sized void in your thinking.
Thanks in anticipation
Abysmal. Rehashing the words of the club's acting CEO is not journalism, and just by repeating them doesn't make their assumptions correct. This is a black day in the Liverpool Echo's coverage of Everton FC.
I see the internet vultures of KEIOC have surrounded an article that dares not to critcise Kirkby.......
The vocal MINORITY yet again attempt to pick the meat off the flesh of a pro-Kirkby piece. Get it lads - MINORITY, you lost the vote & hence are the MINORITY, the MAJORITY are behind it, hence the lack of matchday protests & despite your wishful thinking (if it happens) Kirkby WON'T be the disaster you're all hoping for. If you don't want to go, as the horror of a bus ride & finding a new pre-match watering hole is the factor that will "kill" your love for the Blues, so be it. See ya later.
see the internet vultures of KEIOC have surrounded an article that dares not to critcise Kirkby.......
The vocal MINORITY yet again attempt to pick the meat off the flesh of a pro-Kirkby piece. Get it lads - MINORITY, you lost the vote & hence are the MINORITY, the MAJORITY are behind it, hence the lack of matchday protests & despite your wishful thinking (if it happens) Kirkby WON'T be the disaster you're all hoping for. If you don't want to go, as the horror of a bus ride & finding a new pre-match watering hole is the factor that will "kill" your love for the Blues, so be it. See ya later.
So you think Everton can afford for people who go to every Everton game to suddenly stop going when they move to Kirkby?
Really?
A club that is struggling to sell 32,000 tickets for matches as it is, can REALLY afford to lose even one fan?
Can it?
I guess it'll be OK though, as those who continue to attend in Kirkby will be the "true fans" and will be more than willing to pay through the nose in order to compensate for those who stop going....
Dig deep, Steve, "your" club will need you...
I don't want Everton to move to Kirkby, but I also don't think accusing the Echo of just doing what Everton tell them too is the right thing to do either.
All Dominic King has done in this article is set out the two sides. He hasn't actually taken sides.
In my opinion, KEIOC have done a very bad job in trying to keep Everton here, and are almost as guilty as the city council for the fact that no-one takes any alternative to Kirkby that seriously.
Dominic's not to blame for that, and neither is the Echo, the Daily Post, Radio Merseyside, Radio City or whoeveer else fans want to use as their whipping boy for the day. Grow up.
How strange that you choose to compare Goodison to the Emirates Dominic.
Presumably to draw a balance you'll provide a future comparison between the proposed Kirkby stadium and either the Reebok or JJB stadiums. Given they're of a similar standard.
Pathetic 'journalism' pathetic argument.
But hey, at least we'll have batlights, at least the sun will shine every day, and at least there'll be free food, free beer and we'll all live happily ever after, assuming we can actually get there, and assuming we don't have to wait ten hours to get out after the game.
Well done Dominic. Really, well done.